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Windows version of Studio One still unable to send tracknames to iZotope Plug-Ins like "Relay" or "Neutron".

+64 votes
asked Jun 28, 2019 in Instruments and Plug-Ins by sigmarconrad (1,080 points)
edited Oct 27, 2020 by sigmarconrad

To date the Windows version of Studio One never has been able to send tracknames to iZotope Plug-Ins like "Relay" or "Neutron" - which would be necessary to use the functions of those plug-ins. When will you finally fix this bug?

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+33 votes
answered Jul 4, 2019 by jstalcup (3,620 points)
selected Dec 21, 2019 by sigmarconrad
Best answer

I had a long discussion with iZotope support, who essentially stated that the problem resided in the way Presonus implemented VST support. They pointed me at several other DAWs that used their VST plugins and properly synched the track name into their plugins. I agree that Presonus needs to address this bug in an update SOON.

I lose tons of time having to manually type in names to Neutron 3 and Ozone when it would automatically populate in other DAWs. I don't want to switch DAWs.

Come on Presonus, you and iZotope are forward-thinking companies. Make sure you interoperate.

Here is the response I received to my Support ticket. If you are an iZotope user PLEASE enter a support ticket. Only officially reported bugs will get any traction and the more that are reported the higher the priority...

   We're sorry you're having this issue, and have reported this to the Studio One development team. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Feedback from customers like you is a critical asset to the improvement of our hardware and software!

   Unfortunately, I am unable to provide a time frame for when this will be resolved. Please keep an eye out for bug fixes in Studio One update release notes.

+17 votes
answered Dec 21, 2019 by anubhavukil (8,390 points)
This should be addressed
+18 votes
answered Dec 21, 2019 by sigmarconrad (1,080 points)

It should be - but it still isn't!

Here is, what iZotope wrote to me this summer:

"Unfortunately this feature in Relay is a bit dependent on the DAW you are using and may not work on across all DAWs."

They apologized for the inconvenience but more helpful would have been to inform customers about what iZotope-products are unable to do - BEFORE the purchase! For me the feature was the biggest arguments to spend so much money on a mixing software. Disappointing!

I asked them if they are planing to add the feature soon so that even Windows-users can benefit from it. 

Here is, what they answered:

"It is something we are hoping to add for a future patch, but unfortunately part of it has to do with the way Studio One's plug-in wrappers work which is why it differs so much based on the DAW used."

I think it's a very diplomatic wording for "We do not plan to add the feature at all!"

Now its your turn PreSonus!!!! Team up with iZotope and prevent people from switching the DAW!!!

+14 votes
answered Jan 14, 2020 by philangus (10,040 points)

Or to put it more politely:

I would like to see more refined integration with Izotope Neutron. When Neutron 3 is added to a track in Logic, the instance of the plugin takes its name from the track name, but in Studio One, it just gets named Neutron with an instance number. So for example if you want to use masking in the Neutron EQ module against another track (bass guitar - bass drum), you need to manually name the plugin for every track so that in the list within Neutron you know what is being selected. Like 'Bass drum' rather than currently 'Neutron 4', Neutron 5' etc etc. At the moment it's rather a painful exercise added to the workflow.

+9 votes
answered May 17, 2020 by robertshamansky (490 points)
Is there a way to rename all the Relay instances using a macro? I really hope Presonus & Izotope get this resolved because I’m not dumping either one of them and renaming instances of Relay will be very tedious ‍♂️
+10 votes
answered May 21, 2020 by garamheo (360 points)
Yes....please fix this ASAP!
+8 votes
answered Jun 1, 2020 by dalefreese (410 points)
I agree

Please fix asap
+9 votes
answered Jun 7, 2020 by Daw Stew (9,270 points)
yes please fix, and the same issue with Waves CLA MixHub
+4 votes
answered Jun 12, 2020 by rinkymehra (260 points)

Is there a way to rename all the Relay instances using a macro? 

+1 vote
answered Jun 12, 2020 by sigmarconrad (1,080 points)
Even if the possibility of macros is not there to make the job of Presonus IT easier - yeah - a macro could be acceptable as a temporary solution.  Does anyone know how such a macro can be set up?
+8 votes
answered Jun 27, 2020 by osmark (1,050 points)

Yes, we need track names passed to these plugins, working without it is super cumbersome.

+8 votes
answered Jul 9, 2020 by sigmarconrad (1,080 points)
Studio One 5 has just come out - with a lot of really great innovations. But sadly, the new version of Studio One still does not send track names to iZotopes Relay, Neutron or Ozone! Some tracks in Studio One's mixer carry the previously given name - but some other tracks in the mixer adopt the name of the VST instrument instead. So I can see a track in Studio One's mixer called "Massive" (Native Instruments) instead of my given trackname "Bass". Studio One seems to have a general problem with naming the tracks... although dealing with track names is more likely to be part of the bread and butter business of a DAW.
+6 votes
answered Sep 12, 2020 by francilien (1,710 points)
Feature request for Relay ok but Ozone or Neutron plugins have the same issue.

Thanks in advance for the fix Presonus
+2 votes
answered Oct 6, 2020 by anubhavukil (8,390 points)

Please rephrase the question, I mean edit it. Studio One 5 also shows the same behavior.

I think it is not Studio One's fault.

Fabfilter Pro-Q3 can take the channel names easily and even if we rename the channel, the change will get reflected in that instance of Pro-Q3.

Now to answer, sigmarconrad 

the thing is, when you have an instrument track, it doesn't have a connected channel. That's how Studio One works. A channel is where there should be audio. Now, when you add an instrument to an instrument track, an instrument channel will be created. That channel takes the name of the instrument. There are some scripts from Lawrence, to change the name of the instrument (with one key command) so that the instrument will take the channel name.

There are several documents and videos which talks about the difference between Studio ne tracks and Channels (the difference is perceivable for instrument tracks or for people coming from Ableton, Midi tracks.

+1 vote
answered Jul 1, 2021 by sigmarconrad (1,080 points)
I understand that there is a difference between tracks and channels. But in S1 there is an extra function called "Transfer track names to channels". And even if you use this function, no track- (or channel-) names will be imported into Relay or any other plug-in from iZotope. So that's not the point. Two and a half years after my original request here, Presonus released version 5.3. The list of new functions and fixes also states that they have improved something on VST3 support. But unfortunately there is still no import of track names in iZotope plug-ins.
+1 vote
answered Nov 3, 2021 by moncefmeriah (930 points)
I am a new S1 User. I came from Ableton.

I have the same issue with VST (2 and 3) under Mac OS. Neutron can't display the tracknames. Please fix the bug. Thanks
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answered Apr 4 by caralm (200 points)
I also would like to see this implemented to have Izotope Relay inherit the Channel tag name of where it has been inserted.  So if I insert relay on a bass channel, I would like that relay instance identified as Bass without having to manually edit it.    I think the attempted explanation below about tracks and channel being different so we can't do anything is inadequate. relay is a mixing aid and it belongs on the channel so implement the bug fix (or feature inadequacy - whichever terminology you prefer) on the channel.