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FX Chain/Macro controls/Insert routing wishlist

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asked Nov 25, 2020 in Instruments and Plug-Ins by Villi (370 points)

The FX chain feature is enticing, but when you try using it you quickly run into its limitations. Here are some suggestions I think would help it become a killer feature:

Macro page and controls:

  • Optional ability to hide plugins inside a fx-chain macro-insert.
    • Sometimes an FX chain is a chain of plugins meant to be individualy tweaked, but other times it is a collection meant to be tweaked from the macro page. In these cases the constituent plugins just clutter up the insert-list. Ideally multiple such macro inserts should be allowed on the same track and to be part of other FX chains.
  • Automatable Macro controls.
  • Ability to control splitter volume and mutes from macro controls.
    • This would avoid a lot of utility mixtools in complex chains. Maybe throw in crossover frequency too.
  • Optional relative parameter modification for macro controls.
    • Now all macro controls directly set the parameter value. This severely limits having multiple controls control the same parameter.
  • More precise setting of control curves.
    • Precisely setting the points on the curve is a nightmare, especially if you're only using a small range of the parameter. Being able to directly set the numeric value by clicking a point would be ideal.
  • More points on control curves.
    • The current system is okay, but the ability to have points inbetween the extremes would allow more flexibility. Being able to precisely set the middle in particular would be nice.
  • Ability to set a custom default value of macro controls.
    • Speaking of, being able to set a default value (ie. control click value) other than the middle would be nice.
  • Custom control layout.
    • It would be nice to be able to choose what and how many controls are needed. If one could choose where they go, even better.
  • Buttons that switch between numeric values.
    • Minor, but could be useful.


  • All inputs and outputs of plugins exposed.
    • Eg. allow routing to the sidechain input of a plugin.
  • Feedback routing.
    • It is needed for many classic (and maybe some new?) effects. Now I realize that this has been specifically designed not to be allowed in the mixer routing, but it is limiting not to have it in an effects setting. I'm sure it can be done in a safe way.
  • Mid side splitter.
    • You can do it with a MS matrix plugin or mix tools of course, but it would be convenient.
  • 3+ part crossover filter with less severe phase response
    • The 2-part frequency splitter is great, but with more bands the phase shifts are huge. I'm not knowledgeable enough about DSP filters to really know what's possible or not without incurring too much latency, but naively, multiple two part splitters in series works.
  • Phase flip on splitter output
    • Convenient.
  • A mixer module similar to splitter.
    • Would be convenient.
  • Kind of related: Ability to move instruments in multi instrument routing.
    • If you have three instruments and you want two of them after a splitter, you can't freely which two go after the splitter. Ie. if you have instrument A, B and C in that order, you can have A and B after a splitter, or B and C, but getting A and C after the splitter seems impossible without unloading instruments to get the right order.

Feel free to add your own thoughts and ideas! :)

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answered Dec 1, 2020 by Lukas Ruschitzka (256,440 points)
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