Question

Hi!

Loving S1-3 more and more!!

But I make the same mistake all the time... while mixing and scrolling horisontal in the mixer, I change one or several fader positions.

Would be lovley with the ability to disable scroll-wheel adjustments to avoid un-intended movements.

Very easy mistake to do, especially when time are short and movements quick...

Sorry and please inform me if I have missed an obvious setting in the prefs.. :-)

Best regards,

Pelle Fridell

Answer 1

Agree on this. I think having a lot more customization options around what Alt, Ctrl, Shift modifiers do along with mouse scroll wheel would be fantastic since Studio One can use these very differently than other DAW's or even non-DAW applications. Mousewheel in particular is one where I'm frequently moving things by accident when I'm expecting to be zooming, so any way to prevent that would be great.

Answer 2

I was creating this same request, is there an option to disable the  mousewheel changing some values?
this is really important and annoying, this is constant happening changing faders, colors and other things accidentally

for changing values It should work first pressing a ctrl key (or other key) and leave just the mousewheel for navigating the page, up and/down or the left/right in mixer and the zoom in timeline
loving studio one

thanks!!

Answer 3

It's crazy. On off option or key command so very needed on this one!!!!!!

Answer 4

I used to be a vehement advocate of fader scrolling but after messing up quite a few mixes I have to agree with this FR. As you can see from the following animated screen capture, the Mixer is a scrolling minefield:

Users may be more inclined to use the mixer scrollbar if it were a bit thicker like it used to in Studio One v2, as I suggested previously (FR: Thicker scroll bars like in v2).

Having said that, there are situations where the mouse wheel still has its place:

1. Knobs: When turning a knob, if you release the mouse button the pointer is no longer over the knob and you need to drag the mouse back onto the knob if you need to do further adjustments, This is more noticeable on small knobs. This doesn't happen with linear controls such as faders because the fader cap is always under the mouse pointer. AFAIK only the stock plugins have knobs, I can't see any knobs in the mixer or anywhere else.
2. The microphone and the mouse are in the same room while recording: A mouse wheel allows you to adjust levels silently, whereas the mouse button "click" sound would be picked up and recorded.

So I think getting rid of it completely would not be wise. I would add a couple of options as follows to selectively disable scrolling of controls only on scrollable panels, which at the time of writing is just the Mixer and the track headers panel in the Arrange View:

The same option would also be available form the Mixer's spanner menu. The two could be linked or independent. IMO if you disable it in one place you usually would want it disabled in the other too. I think it's better to put this option in the spanner menu than in the Options window where it would take more clicks to get to it, and as I said there are times where you need to be able to scroll those faders.

When the option is unchecked, scrolling anywhere on the mixer scrolls the entire mixer panel.

Current there exist the following design inconsistencies:

1. Mixer faders respond to scrolling but track header faders don't respond to scrolling. Mixer color pickers also respond to scrolling, while track header color pickers don't. Etc.
2. Some list controls respond to scrolling but list controls in the mixer and track headers do not. If this FR was implemented, all list controls would respond to scrolling. Additionally, list controls in the mixer and track headers would selectively ignore scrolling as specified by the option in my above mock-up, thus keeping things consistent with the rest of the application. The following screen capture shows an example of list controls in the inspector (which react to scrolling) and list controls in the mixer (which don't react to scrolling):

It would be nice to see  more options for the mouse and modifier keys similar like in REAPER which allows full mouse configuration.

Answer 5

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Answer 6

it look as bug for new s1 because with mousewheel can move in some middle positions the mixer left or right. if you learn to do this way make problems. if after a move is the mouse under the smaller fader place, then continue rotate the wheel modify the fader. i use not the wheel for scroll mixer, because the mouse wheel need many rotations, so i use the slider knob(below) and i am faster with that. but if you like the mouse wheel can go to position from instrument editor button upto auto: .... because colors can change with mousewheel too, you need avoid to reach the name area....

I think it is better when the color can not change with mousewheel, because colors need not change often. if color change work not with mouse wheel then area for scroll mixer left right is larger and so need not position the mouse so precise

for faster mouse wheel i think it is good when with press of shift or CTRL mousewheel can work faster

Answer 7

Definitely!

I see why people might like it, but I accidentally shift things all the time when all I want to do is just scroll through the console channels.

Answer 8

Would be nice to have this at least fine-tuned a bit. Maybe even something like, when using shift and the mousewheel in the mixer, left to right scrolling takes total Priority.

I recently switched to S1 and when I’m not using my touchpad it is pretty difficult for me to scroll the mixer without accidentally adjusting a fader.

Answer 9

Definitely a nasty little thing that can happen when Ctrl+Scrolling left or right in Mixer view, when the left-right movement stops, suddenly a fader starts to move via the scroll movement. I can't imagine anyone would want this to happen.

Answer 10

YES PLEASE!! I think most people jumping ship from the likes of Pro Tools (as I am) find this feature an annoying way to screw your levels up while trying to scroll. Please give us preferences to switch mouse wheel control of faders and pan controls off!  :-)

Thank you!!

Answer 11

I agree!! I always scroll up and down and change the send , the eq, the pan , the volume all the time!!! and the information thing on the left

Answer 12

The new update for Studio One 4.5 today is great.......but it's still missing the option to stop the scroll wheel from changing parameters in the mixer. PLEASE IMPLEMENT THIS, it's so simple but very important!! :-)

Answer 13

This is one of the most annoying feature for mac users.. why isnt this fixed yet?

Answer 14

Yes, this annoys the **** out of me.

It's nice to be able to use the mouse wheel for navigating in the time-line and stuff like that, but for adjusting ANY parameter under the mouse pointer on a high resolution display with tiny knobs, using a super-sensitive Apple Magic Mouse, well, that's close to being suicidal or masochistic at best.

I seriously have a separate mouse I use with S1, because the Magic Mouse is so sensitive to scrolling in all directions.

Answer 15

Totally agree, this is extremely frustrating, Presonus, please address this one.

Answer 16

January 2016. That is the year this was posted. It is February 2020. 

The developers pay close attention to those that are voted on the most.

This is a question/feature request that's posted over and over on this forum. And it's yet another small feature that's a huge workflow impediment. I'm new to S1 – in so many ways this software is incredible, but these small, unexpected things get frustrating fast.

Please, just add a way to bind Scroll Wheel Adjusts Parameters to a modifier key.

Answer 17

Having used multiple DAWs over the years I would say that IMHO this is one of the worst features I've ever seen. It's too easy to think you're zooming in on the arranger and end up changing a mixer level or some random parameter in a plugin. Scroll wheel is also useless for changing parameters like transpose, etc. The slightest movement sends the value way beyond anything I want.

Please Presonus, this is the one thing that I really don't like about your DAW.  It's incredibly frustrating to work on a track and have something go unexpectedly wrong because of the stupid scroll wheel. 4 years people have been asking for this. Surely it's not complicated to simply add a "disable scroll wheel for parameter changes" option in the advanced settings.

Answer 18

This is so important. I can hardly use Studio One with my Apple Magic Mouse (wiping, even at the edges, causes mouse wheel commands). Whenever it‘s hovering over the mixer, it‘s so easy to change a value by mistake without noticing. Please add an option to turn off this behaviour (never change values by mouse wheel) on S1‘s side, app-wide.

Answer 19

Not a single day goes by without accidently changing parameters when scrolling through the mixer...

Answer 20

C'mon guys, it's almost 2021.
It's been 5 years. We're not asking some AI mixing assistant or something like that. Just an option to disable "mouse wheel change parameters when cursor is hovering them". It can be checked off the todo list of the development team in half a morning.

Please!

Answer 21

Yep, it's now 2021, and as far as I can tell this still hasn't made it to the table. Very frustrating!

Answer 22

I've just started demoing S1 and after just 10 minutes I'm googling this. Depending on where the mouse is in the mixer you're changing levels, altering the pan, changing the colour (ffs...why???) and, intermittently scrolling, with the direction reversed for my preference. Complete deal-breaker for me, sorry.

Answer 23

If you want to scroll left and right in the console and avoid moving any faders, you can hold shift and scroll with the mouse wheel. I agree though there should be an option to turn off having the scroll wheel affect faders in the console.

Answer 24

Please Presonus, this is REALLY VERY FRUSTRATING!

I'm in the middle of jumping into SO5 and i LOVE it ... but accidently changing mixer values when you just want to scroll through the mixer view is extremely unsexy. And it can't be THAT hard to put a checkbox somewhere in the preferences, honestly.

Answer 25

And so, version 6 came along and still this problem isn't addressed. I just can't understand why PreSonus just seems to totally ignore this issue. It annoys me - no, it doesn't only annoy me, it really irritates me every single time I use Studio One. It's a marvelous piece of software but I just can't ever get used to this thing. As far as I'm concerned, this is a total usability mistake. I would love to hear opinions by UI/UX experts on this subject. I'm positive that a very frequent gesture such as scrolling on a program that constantly has the potential to screw your work is a UX design mistake.

If any of the developers ever gets to read this, I'd like to propose to them a mental exercise: imagine a situation where when you are writing your code in Visual Studio or whatever you use, sometimes when scrolling around the C++ code would accidentally get changed. Or imagine scrolling through a Word document and see the text get changed sometimes.

Because this is exactly how this feature feels to me when using Studio One. Mouse wheels are for scrolling, not value changes. This is the accepted behavior in software, learned through years of muscle memory in every other app. Besides, it isn't even good for the task because it's just way too sensitive in most cases. 

And it's so frustrating because I can't imagine this being a very complex option to implement (I say this being a developer myself, but I could be wrong - I don't know the code). All I want is a preference, because some people might like it, to disable the mouse wheel action on the console for EVERY parameter - not just the faders. It's equally bad with panning or even track colors.

For what is worth, the Cubase forum also has several threads discussing this annoying behavior, which is also a thing in that software.

Answer 26

2023 checking in! This is my first day using Studio One and I encountered this problem right away. I can't believe there is not an option to turn it off! It's enough interruption as it is to accidently move a fader and catch the mistake, I can't imagine the headache when it will inevitably happen without me realizing. Guess I'll have to click and the drag the scrollbar every time I want to move around? Not a fun workaround.

I'm coming from Reaper where you can easily disallow the scroll wheel from affecting parameters. And if you do mistakenly adjust a fader you can double click to set it back to 0. I thought this would all be standard, I guess not...

Edit: Thanks to another commenter I learned another workaround is to hold shift while scrolling. That will have to do, it's not a real solution but it might prevent me from tearing my hair out