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The quantize on "Swing Rhythm" is still terrible.

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asked Sep 14, 2020 in Studio One 5 by juntanaka (310 points)
edited Sep 15, 2020 by juntanaka
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Actually, I felt really sorry to see that Swing rhythm, e. g. like 1/16 60%, can’t be quantized correctly on even 5.0.2.x

I'm gonna show you how terrible S1's quantize on swing rhythm is.



I often make complex swing songs with many tracks kind of big band jazz, so it's really stressful to quantize a lot of tracks manually...
When will it be improved?  I’ve been waiting for the improvement since ver2.

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I forgot to say this but...
It’s not always but often. Something causes this problem. I hope the correctness can be required more.

6 Answers

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answered Sep 18, 2020 by robertgray3 (42,610 points)
selected Sep 21, 2020 by juntanaka
 
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The bug/what's happening here is that quantizing multiple times at different grid sizes for some reason references the note's original created position. It ignores previous quantization that was performed.

In the meantime- here's a workaround: Use Freeze Quantize before changing grid sizes and quantizing with swing et cetera.
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answered Sep 14, 2020 by robertgray3 (42,610 points)
I set up my notes exactly like yours in that video and everything quantized properly at 1/16 60% on my Mac install.

Every once in a while someone mentions this issue and shows videos of Studio one mistakenly quantizing to grid lines that are very far from the notes.

You really should talk to Support, not here, because it is likely some kind of issue that will need more detailed troubleshooting.
+1 vote
answered Sep 15, 2020 by juntanaka (310 points)
edited Sep 15, 2020 by juntanaka

@ robertgray3
Thanks for your checking.
I forgot to say that it's not always but sometimes.  I don't know what causes this issue.
Most parts of S1's functions are superior to other DAWs so I love it. However, I hate to say this, but I think that the realtime recording MIDI and Audio lacks correctness yet comparing to Protools and Cubase.

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answered Sep 15, 2020 by robertgray3 (42,610 points)
From past experience, what you’re describing is probably a rare bug. I’d work with Support, show them what you’re seeing and share the song file with them and see what happens. Something is causing it.

Side note, naturally, because most people can’t comprehend there being bugs that might not affect them :D I noticed a person or two voted this topic down.
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answered Sep 18, 2020 by juntanaka (310 points)
@robertgray3
Sorry for my late rep!
Oh, thaks.  I haven' used freeze quantize. I'll try it when the problem happens next.
S1 is very useful for me to mix and master but it's really stressful when editing fine MIDI and Audio on complicated arrangements because of its strange acting.  Actually, I often use other DAWs except for mixing. I hope to use S1 from beginning to end without stress.
Thanks!!
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answered Sep 21, 2020 by Lukas Ruschitzka (256,840 points)
It's not a bug but I understand that this feels strange.

The quantize function considers the original note positions. If you run "Freeze Quantize" the current note position will become the new "original" note position. So in this case just run "Freeze Quantize" as Rob said.
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