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Big S1 V5 Problem: V5 uses much higher resources than V4 on the same song - glitches!

+16 votes
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asked Jul 17, 2020 in Studio One 5 by gregguarino (500 points)

This is actually my friend's problem, not mine. But I have definitely decided to put off upgrading until this problem is addressed. 

He is a relatively new S1 user, but a very experienced producer on other platforms. Loves S1 4.5, bought it on my (indirect) recommendation. Just upgraded to 5. Now the same song that barely taxed his computer at all in 4.5 uses so much computer power that it glitches, even with high buffer settings. He did another similar experiment, with two identcal songs. 4.5 works fine. 5 glitches. 

Sorry for the incomplete info. I can get more details. I am asking mostly because I was considering upgrading but will now hold off until I get some reassurance that this will not happen to me as well. 

7 Answers

+6 votes
answered Jul 17, 2020 by ronzabrocki (620 points)
edited Jul 17, 2020 by ronzabrocki
I have been using 4.6 for a year or so. Solid as a rock. By the way, using a 16 core 128 gigs of ram killer pc. Upgraded to S1 5... Glitchy, klunky, dropouts on editing. Same project in 4... No problems can go up to 100 tracks and TONS of plugins and virtual instruments, not a glitch. Low usage. But with only 16 stero tracks and a few plug ins, it just turns to zipper noise.
+3 votes
answered Jul 18, 2020 by markbeling (1,380 points)
Yep, I agree. This version has just been issues for me since i upgraded... cannot get through a few hours without having to restart....im using a mac pro and Mojave. Now suddenly Pipeline does not want to work . I load up a new track in studio one 4.6.2 and perfect....what have they broken here?
+3 votes
answered Jul 24, 2020 by jaysalam (220 points)
Adding my frustration to this. iMac 32 gB ram, OS 10.13.6. I have been using S1 v4.6 for quite a while now. I am an old S1 user, starting with S1 v2. I could not be more disappointed. This is the worst excuse for an upgrade in my ever experience. I have tested a lot of beta versions of various things and NEVER had anything close to total garbage as this version. If Presonus is looking for someone to write cleaner code, my next door neighbor's 12 year old could do a better job. I am back to S1 v4.6.

What good are new features if the entire software sucks. Why does it use 3 times the ram just loading it in and then crash after an hour or two of use. What a joke on me! They got my very hard earned money.
+3 votes
answered Jul 28, 2020 by jonasoberressl (1,650 points)

I totally agree guys... V5 is a mess.
I get up to 100% more CPU load than in V4.6... no matter 3rd party plugins or presonus plugin the whole DAW and individual plugins use way more CPU!!!

i cant even play some of my old projects as they sit at around 60-70% in V4.6 and completey kill my machine in V5... constant glitches, graphic errors and crashes... pretty UNUSABLE!!

Here is are screenshots of my last test (the all play out pretty much the same ), same machine, same settings...:

V4.6 (no 3rd-party stuff): tested with 1audio (x16) loop and a bunch of S1-plugins

V5:

V4.6:

V5

Back to 4.6 for now

(no) Cheers J

0 votes
answered Jan 8, 2021 by RToon (880 points)
Listen to your users/customers presonus!  Don't make us the testers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 votes
answered Mar 23, 2021 by davidjenkins3 (330 points)
I'm having problems now 5.2 the build from March 5 2021 with slow startup, songs opening slowly, songs closing slowly, and when saving.
0 votes
answered Aug 26, 2021 by andytikunov (220 points)
edited Aug 26, 2021 by andytikunov

Not totally agree with last answers. Just updated my system - from old i7-2600k/16Gb/Win7 with Studio One 4.6 to this configuration:

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700F
MB: ASUS ROG STRIX B460-F GAMING
RAM: 32Gb @ 2933 MHz
Main SSD: Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500G (NVMe)
Add. SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 250G (SATA)
Audio: Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 (gen 2)

Windows 10 Pro with all last updates up to 25.08.21.

Two DAWs: Studio One Pro 5.3 + Studio One Pro 4.6

Initilally I also thought V5 has worst performance in comparement to V4 because part of my old projects (worked w/o drops on old slow system!) had dropouts during playback. But after I did those improvements:

https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025279231-Optimizing-Your-Computer-for-Audio-Windows-10

I founded that v4.6 and v5.3 on my new system have a similar cpu load behavior. Main improvemets for i7-10xxx, I think, were:

  1. Enabling High Performance Mode in Power Settings 
  2. Switching Processor Scheduling to Background Services.

Those steps removed all dropouts and maked work with S1 v5 much more comfortable.

But I decided to compare preformance between v4.6 and v5.3 on my new system with all optimizations. Same project (just 10 tracks, 6 buses and Lurssen Mastering Console Plugin at Master Bus - real CPU-hog) and identical ASIO buffer and dropout ptotection settings. Below you can see some screenshots made during playback same loop (note v4.6 is first and has light icon at window title, v5.3 - second with dark icon) which show that performance meters are very similar for my case.

Settings and latency measurements (same for 4.6 and 5.3):

UPD. Maked more useful crop images:

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